Eath-shattering KABOOM?

Well wonderful... I spent the better part of my time alive telling Uber, Malice and anyone that would listen that MP is most likely the Mad Hatter, due to how he was acting, and what does he do after I'm dead? He totally disregards this fact, and goes off of a clue that I'm willing to bet that the storyteller put in there to jack with him. He fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Town is effed.

I suppose there's nothing else to do but make room for the new deadites that will be coming our way...

The Squid is dead... long live the squid...?

Well nuts.

I was feeling pretty good about myself. Under my leadership, we managed to nail Neo and Jun. Then I got careless... I should have done better research to determine if Eyolo was purposefully avoiding conversation or not.

Shadow kept a low profile man... and l33t wouldn't freakin' talk to me...

But yeah.. lolexcuses... it was fun. Hope town can pull off a win.

Corpsevote

It's time~

The town knows about Zaxser but I don't think they have intel on Shadowblade Edge.

I've heard from both THG and Jun that Malice-sama is the Fairy Godmother.

At this point I've put my vote in to kill Shadowblade Edge (yes, the winner of this deadvote is a roasty-toasty-princess) but I am partial to voting elsewhere.

Tonight we dine in hell~

To my devout fans~

Speaking as the seemingly universally hated former semi-overlord of town, I have to say that there are tons of reasons to lie, even if you are a townie. The most obvious being to deceive mafia or other players that are not-necessarily within your trusted frame of players. I do not feel that I betrayed town in anyway (and certainly do not feel that I directly lied about my reasoning for supporting Sky's insta-lynch).

Despite the obvious, I continue to be humored to no end that I always have a significantly more rough time convincing people that I am town when I really am town than when I am not-town.

There are no hard feelings over being dead-voted so consistently, and your effect on the game was quite focused (and ironically anti-town~). I blush at being the focus of so much of your discussion this game. They like me! They really like me! They vote for me in nearly every tally that I am alive for! <3 <3 <3

Good luck in future games and let us enjoy what remains of our show.

Deadvote?

I deadvoted Zaxser for now, but am happy to swap it if someone else has another idea.

It will block any day time ability and maybe voting for the upcoming day phase.

I would prefer to deadvote the Storyteller or a sibling - that is likely to be Malise-Sama - for the next deadvote to prevent them from making a hit...

More from THG (via Aarin)

Message Forwarded From The Humble Grasshopper

QUOTE
Message~~

The living's list is currently a combination of clue-analysis (as with malice, jun, and madogu for siblings and Zaxser for mafia) and unknown player analysis (of which, Eyolo has been quite suspect, but Shadowblade Edge may also fall in line with. I have no information on Eyolo, 1337guard, harveybullock, Shadowblade edge, and SDB).

I believe that the exact line that we red herring checked was presented on Zaxser. But if it hasn't, look at Aarin's hit in Day 2's thread closely. Note especially the gift from a certain painter. Then look at Zaxser's avatar--which is in the style of the same region and era of painter. The "gift from a certain ______ Gerard" is not a red herring, as proven by trusted townie Sarck. umhyuk is also super-trusted townie--having fronted the bulk of the clues that damned both Kemindul and zero_kanipan (as well as having offered a good deal of red herring checks).

This is the current analysis of the clues:
QUOTE
Hansel Gretel, "skin as fair as milk"(Godmother) Curly hair. Golden hair. Eating/dinner. "Sweet." Huff, fume blow.
Persons: Malice-sama(Godmother, white hello kitty ava) + Madogu Abuser(Avatr: Huff, fume blow. Likes to eat) + Jun(Red, loc: eating goldfish)
Role: Fairy Godmother + Siblings
-d1-0 Old King(NPC)?
-d4-5 Frère Jacques(Priest) -Nessarose kill. Had "skin as fair as milk" in narrative too, so double hit with the siblings?
-d5-1 Puss in Boots(Veteran) -"Golden"(possible double hit with the wolf)
-d6-2 The Canary Prince(Townie) -"Golden"(possible double hit with the wolf)
We should use a well placed herring check on the intro narrative once this one makes another kill, so we'll know what to look for.
d4-5 is probably not too important.
1 kill left.

Piper. Lead astray. "Old eyes on a new and fresh face." (not herring) Wild hair and eyes shining fierce intelligence, dressed in the vibrant colors of the rainbow. Flower(!).
Person: NeoNostalgia(Old(in the forum), also THG is believing him to be mafia)
Role: Veteran or Godfather.
-d3-1 Goldilocks(Townie) -mouse(Double with the Sage?)
-d4-1 Faithful John(Medic)
-d5-3 Joringel(Paramedic)
-d6-3 Mama Bear(Bodyguard)
-d7-1 Baby Bear(Bodyguard)
Suddenly went from first hitter to last hitter, check online behavior.

Bzou/wolf. "So he drew around him a saffron dress, a "gift" from a Marguerite Gérard."(Not Herring) Snack. Steals, lusting for gold and strange things
Person: Zaxer(picture is Marguerite Gérard style)
Role: Godfather or Veteran
-d2-2 Frau Trude(failed hit on Necromancer)
-d4-4 Rumpelstiltskin(Townie)
Erratic hit pattern. Been apparently silent for 2 nights now, Any veterans/medics+protected reporting being hit?

A little bit from everywhere:
-Heavy rain(perhaps herring? Clue to the storyteller?)

Other:
CitizenX(sage)? -storyteller?
Gasp! Its Jake(Love)? -storyteller?

Unsure:
Harvey Bullock(Rain)? -potential storyteller? check out clues in narrations containing herrings up to his profile.

Herring checks:
Cycle 2: d2-4 "Her hair was as pink as the flowers and her lips was as soft as its petals." -HERRING

Cycle 3: d3-3 concerning the lady with an apron going after papa bear. -HERRING

Cycle 4: d4-3 "Behind him she stood and behind her the clock stood and it ticked Day : and tocked." -not herring

Cycle 5: d5-2 "The room spun." -not herring

Cycle 6: d2-2 "...a "gift" from a Marguerite Gérard." -not herring

Cycle 7: d6-3 "Old eyes on a new and fresh face." -not herring
Here's to hoping you find something of use~

From THG via Aarin

Message Forwarded From The Humble Grasshopper

Currently, we have a few suspects based on the clues. Malice-sama is revealed quite effectively as unaffiliated--and the only reasoning I can come up with for his explicit reveal to me (because I pressured him upon that 1 mafia in vampirate's lynch) that he was unaffiliated is that he is godmother. This doesn't have to be true. It could have been solely an effort to redirect my efforts on the mafia who were, at the time, much more of a threat. Malice-sama has, without question, voted for whomever I wished him in the lynch. Eventually he will have to turn against town, and I suspect that is now. Malice has a two-in-three chance of being a sibling, so a dead vote to prevent his action would be 66% likely to prevent another kill.

Peripheral possibilities, as pointed to by the clues (albeit vaguely), are Jun and Madogu Abuser. Madogu because his interests are "Breathing Eating and Sleeping" and eating is a theme in the sibling kills. Jun because "golden" is also a frequent occurance and her location is "At home, eating Goldfish." Again, the eating, but this time also with the golden.

I also strongly agree with Squidworth and Aarin as to the possibility and likelihood of Eyolo being the final mafia (and thus storyteller). He has been active on the forum elsewhere, but hasn't "touched" any public part of this game--despite having initially said that he would vote for me, he voted for no one in the elections. While he implies inactivity, his actions in other threads (and lack of response to direct inquiries) paints him as a likely mafia or unaffiliated. I guess mafia.

Regarding that peculiar vote-check, I feel that it is possible (even likely) that the storyteller masqueraded either Roxy or myself as mafia in order to try to keep the detectives from contacting us directly. This would also be reflected in vote-tallies, and both of us voted for Vampirate in that list. Thus, there is a scenario possible where the 1 mafia might not be a mafia at all. SpiritClaw16 has claimed to me to be veteran, and he claimed also to know a mafia but was unable to tell me. When Kemindul was lynched, he PMed me telling me that Kemindul was the mafia he couldn't speak about and that Kemindul had threatened his existence in the game.

I feel that he was probably telling the truth. This leads me to be inclined to believe the scenario where the storyteller masqueraded someone as mafia.

For Day 8, I intend to support the lynch of Zaxser or Malice-sama. But I am currently unsure as to which I should go after yet. Squidworth seems to think that we should attempt to get Zaxser to hit one of the siblings (but Zaxser is not as bad of a player as Squid suspects him to be, so I do not think that this will be effective).

Input would be appreciated~~

Deadvote~

Looks like the town is lynching NeoNostalgia, so I will be deadvoting Zaxser to try to disable his kill power tonight.

An empty hand

Aarin is bluffing :/ THG is not the paranoid, or one of our detectives would have exploded when checking him. Even so, they'd hit him with the Godfather and absorb his counter hit.

The known sleeper roles we've seen die are paramedic, vigilante, serial killer, (any that I missed), stands to reason the last sleepers are detective, gossiper, +1 other - and I doubt it's another paramedic.

I also don't think there's a mad hatter anywhere in the game :D

I gave Aarin our list of suspicious cats, which was Malice-sama, Jun, SpiritClaw16 and Shadowblade Edge. In return, he sent us (apparently) the town list.

NeoNostalgia (mafia)
Zaxser (mafia)
Eyolo (mafia)
Malice (TFG).

There are kill clues that point to NeoNostalgia as the piper, and Zaxser as the wolf. I'm not sure how Eyolo's name got added to the mix except through Squidworth's commentary. Of the remaining mafia roles, only two have kill power - if the town lynches one and we deadvote the other, they'll have 0 kill power tonight.

So we just need to deadvote one of the mafia's with kill power. I don't see any clues pointing towards Shadowblade so that would make him the storyteller, have no kill power, and one of the town picks for mafia (Neo/Zaxser/Eyolo) is wrong.

They had no information on the siblings up until DJROC's observation about SpiritClaw16.

However, here's the problem: That detective check BBC made said that THG, Malice or SpiritClaw16 were mafia. Townies think Malice is TFG. What do they know about SpiritClaw that makes him not seen as mafia?

TheHumbleGrasshopper raised an interesing point in chat - he didn't pardon BBC, whom he knew to be a detective, from the lynch. I assume this was because up until the lynch, Roxy was voting for Zero_Kanipan and he was two votes up; Roxy's removal from the game meant BBC was up next.

The trouble is we have three too many names.
Zaxser - mafia wolf?
NeoNostalgia OR Eyolo - mafia piper?
Malice-Sama OR SpiritClaw16 OR Shadowedge Blade - mafia storyteller.

Out of Zax, Neo, Malice, Spirit, Eyolo and Shadow, only three of those are mafia. If the town is right, and Malice is TFG, Spirit MUST be the third mafia (...unless THG really IS mafia O_o).

If we also trust that Zero really didn't sell us a bridge, that means either Zaxser or NeoNostalgia are innocent.

I am really not convinced on the argument for Neo and he gave a good account for himself previously, whereas up until now all the other mafia accused simply folded. I also am not sold for Eyolo either...except that he has a really creepy guy in the background of his myspace - http://www.myspace.com/serenityapocolypse There is a song playing too but I don't know the name of it so I can't check the lyrics :/ It's not a long stretch of the imagination to have Eyolo as the piper.

I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet. I'll see if WonderChicken (I sent him a dead invite) has anything to add for us...

From Aarin

"I have a legit-acquired mafia/unaffiliated list.

Neo
Zax
Eyo
Malice

The siblings are a mystery.

Malice is the likely godmother and is thus useless in dead voting against."

The town will lynch Zaxser or NeoNostalgia today - I propose we dead vote whichever one of them is not going to killed. If it's too close to call, let's whack Eyolo instead.

Thoughts?

Corpsevote (and my list of mafia)

Here is who i think are mafia, Let's choose one and courpsevote for them

Shadowblade Edge (based on what zero sent, trust me he's not smart enough to try and redirect us... he just didn't think)
Zaxser (next lynch target for the town)
Jun (i already talked about this one)
SpiritClaw16 (we've talked about his voting before and the whole i know a mafia person but can't say who)

Malace i suspect may be the mad hatter or a sibling

My preference would be to haunt Zaxser since THG called him out so it wouldn't tip the mafia off to us knowing who they are. We need to all vote the same since we know the mafia dead will be voteing too.

Zero says interesting things~

zero_kanipan> has spada or vamp contacted anyone of the dead?
bringerofcats> o
bringerofcats> zero, Elilea is unofficially banned from the game
bringerofcats> we won't make it official because he might be a cunt and spill mafia identities
Sapphire> It's like people WANT cats to fall. D:
bringerofcats> could you tell the other deadmafia that? :V
zero_kanipan> okies, shadow sent me a pm telling me i shouldnt open any messages from elilea

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If we decide to leave THG alone, I propose we consider Shadowblade Edge~

From Zero_Kanipan

"i have a simple message from the mafia. we no longer care if the necro wins, as long as we cause as much death to the town ^^"

Since the necro can share a win with the mafia I am not sure what he's saying here...

Replies to Winks and Jole

Winks:-
"New Revelation: Elilea got info who Argui was from a dead person and fed it to his mafia buddies."

This is kind of important. Can you please tell the mods how you discovered this?

"THG has 1 bodyguard left nevermind."

I heard today from the GM's that Roxy passed on the identities of her bodyguards to the mafia so that in the event she was killed/removed from the game (apparently she anticipated it) she could punish THG. It will be interesting to see if he survives the night.

"BBC did do a check on THG on day 2 and he came back as the Gossip. This clears him of being a Sibling or the FGM and i don't see him as playing as mafia."

Do not forget the Storyteller!

"I think you are too clouded by your desire to kill THG to think reasonably. Mafia wouldn't have thrown as many of his fellow mafia under the bus as he has and there is no way he is a sibling or the FGM (since he was role checked after those roles were assigned). He's a townie, get over it."

This is plausible. My main reasons for wanting THG dead are:
A - he lied about me, and mafia-cats are the only ones who need to lie and
B - Of the dead, the following players networked or corresponded with THG: DJROC, Kaiba, Harlock, TracerBullet, TheThirdRider, Sapphire, TheWinkel, DNA, BBC, Bscar, Argui and myself. That is 12 out of 16 townie deaths, not including Umino who was taken down by one of ours >.> This is only the players we KNOW of, the other dead (Link, Midnyt, CAB et al) haven't let us know what they were up to. Probably there are more.
C - he lied to DNA about being a Mad Hatter, and has given some indications that he doesn't actually know what the Gossiper role does.

Maybe THG is individually corresponding with all of the players and that is why this paints a grim picture, however having previously tried to network with just ten players I have to say this is a crazy amount of work >.>

However the town did lynch four mafia now and I do have to admit it seems kind of odd for mafia to deliberately kill off so many of their own. Except that, the mafia players...are completely making no effort to defend themselves or change the focus of attention on to somebody else. It's going too well. Everyone's trusting THG because he picked up mafia but don't forget a hell of a lot more roled players died than mafia so far.

"Information from here has been feeding the mafia, that explains the BBC hit (he was outed as a detective here before being killed) and the others can just be explained by hitting visible targets."

I waited until after Link and Midnyt were removed from the blog before posting TTR's information.

Re: Jun - I agree she is certainly suspicious. In the previous game (she was a member of House Montague) she didn't come forward and play with the house until I directly approached her near the end of the game. Even though I was publically outed as being Montague a week before hand. I don't think she actually pays attention to the threads.

From Bscar

I've sent Bscar an invite to the blog, he had this to say:

"The only person who really contacted me was THG, who said he was a gossiper. And since I died after I told him I was just a townie, I'm gonna throw my deadvote to him."

I'm going to add Malice-sama to the suspicious cats list. Sapphire (his wife) mentioned that he was acting all suspicious like in the deadchat recently.

I was thinking of the situation with SpiritClaw16 who is telling people he has a 'mafia contact'.

There's no way that the rest of the mafia would agree to SpiritClaw staying alive if he knows a mafia player, regardless of this so-called agreement they have. I expect this is because SpiritClaw's mafia friend has not told the other mafia about the agreement they have. The whole situation is actually very odd. I think the most likely conclusion is that SpiritClaw is actually a sibling, and a mafia player is the other sibling. This is why they got in to contact with each other, and how the mafia player has been able to keep SpiritClaw alive - he has told his other mafia friends about it. We've learned that the unaffiliated cannot win with town, but they can win with mafia, so...

BBC's information:

Rox (alledged town sleeper), THG (alledge town gossip), Wonder Chicken "(alleged town boadyguard), thethirdrider (confirmed town medic), SpiritClaw16 (still alive), ChaoticAtomBomb (townie), Malice-sama (still alive) were on that vote."

That leaves one of THG, SpiritClaw16 and Malice-sama as Mafia. I asked BK and she said that a masqueraded player would not come up on the 'how many mafia voted for player x' check.

"Its really sad they didn't even know who their own bodyguards were."

Roxy certainly would know, but THG might not have been told - Roxy and THG shared a lot of information, but I tipped Roxy off that THG was probably mafia before she killed me. However Roxy and THG should have been coordinating the detective checks...I wonder why they didn't?

"I believe THG was protected the night I was lynched."

I think it's crazy for them to waste medic protection on the pardoner who had (at that point) two bodyguards still. They should have protected a bodyguard instead! I can't believe THG, if he was really pro-town, could possibly allow the detective to be lynched. He said nothing to defend BBC, not even to say "BBC is a verified townie" or the like. He knew you were a detective and you had proven it by rolechecking a bodyguard (which is the only reason I can see for them to waste a detective check like that).

In response to Jole - "Well i think THG can be cleared of having any anti town role so we should stop haunting the guy"

Really I'm still not satisfied >.> The storyteller is a really annoying role. Instead I look at THG's tactics which so far include lying about me, lying to other people about his role, and the really high proportion of players who have revealed themselves to THG only to die immediately afterwards.
He may not be mafia or TFG but he sure isn't playing for the town.


"I am voting to haunt Jun as he was the deciding vote in killing BBC"

Jun is actually a girl :D

I personally voted THG but we don't have much information on Jun. If she wins the deadvote, it might encourage her to say something in thread.

Aarin hasn't been telling us who won the deadvotes, except for THG the first time...

Haunting Jun

Well i think THG can be cleared of having any anti town role so we should stop haunting the guy :) I am voting to haunt Jun as he was the deciding vote in killing BBC and i cant see why he voted the way he did other than as being mafia (Neo and Aarin were voteing to save themself and bscar is dead).

i suspect Aarin will be dead tomarrow via lynch as they are at the point where he will win if the mafia and siblings are killed. The town can't win with him around.

Something odd

I was looking at THG's list on everyone who is alive at this point, and I realized one thing that struck me as strange:

Where has Uber gone?

From analysis of past games, Uber in general is one of the more active players. If anything, he also didn't a whole lot last game, as he had told all of us to keep quiet.
I'm not saying that Uber is mafia or anything. heck, it might not be anything at all - maybe he has RL troubles or something. But he has been around in the forums in general, and it's not like him to be this quiet.

Just my two cents.

What I know.

Hello from the grave!

My first check as a detective was a vote check on the first Vampirate vote. The answer was only 1 of the people that voted for Vampirate was mafia. Rox (alledged town sleeper), THG (alledge town gossip), Wonder Chicken (alleged town boadyguard), thethirdrider (confirmed town medic), SpiritClaw16 (still alive), ChaoticAtomBomb (townie), Malice-sama (still alive) were on that vote.

From a THG PM:
"Also, I'm hoping that you might help me solve a riddle. Vampirate's voters had 1 mafia in them. Malice-sama claims to not be mafia, but that only leaves Rox Da Box and SpiritClaw16 if Malice tells the truth (which he very-well could be). Rox claims to be sleeper and has been working with me fully in search of mafia, and SpiritClaw16 has claimed to be veteran with a mafia-buddy whose identity he couldn't tell me (because it would mean his death)."

So SpiritClaw16 is a possible vet and Malice is then mafia? Or Rox is just a big lair!! :)

My second check was a role check on THG. He is the town gossip. (at least that is what he was on the day I checked, 2nd day).

My third check was a role check on Wonder Chicken at the suggestion of THG on day three. Wonder Chicken is one of the town bodyguards (or was on that day).

Its really sad they didn't even know who their own bodyguards were.

I believe THG was protected the night I was lynched. He PMed me and said he was sorry that there was nothing he could do for me.

The only person I was communicating with was THG. Besides Rox I do not know who else knew I was the detective.

Another THG PM (7/24 9PM PST)
"I had the other detective check the kemindul votes for mafia."
I do not know the result of this vote check.

Thats what I know. Hope it helps kill THG for being dumb.

Invites away~

I've sent invites to Argui, Lord of All Evil and Bscar.

Suspicious cats~

Now that we've got a 100% confirm in the main thread that Aarin is not playing for a townie win, here is my list of players I personally want dead in roughly this order:

THG
Aarin
Zero_Kanipan
SpiritClaw16
Umhyuk
Jun

Zero - DJROC noticed a rather interesting facet of all the bluebeard kills and something in common with Zero's avatar. Would you like to clarify, DJROC?

SpiritClaw16 - Re: DJROC's observation of the mafia hit pattern.

Umhyuk - I just got that suspicious feeling from him >.>

Jun - see the Fairy Godmother conversation we had earlier.

I have having no internet, I can't go through the forum and check all the profiles like I want to >.>

Also note that it seems the names Elilea posted, at least one of them (Argui) is false. Nobody has commented on it in public yet. Elilea thinks he's a real clever cat, so I wouldn't be surprised if at least one of those names was real. He is counting on somebody killing one of the invalid targets (eg Argui) and thinking 'lol, Elilea is all lies' and thus hiding the real threat.

As it stands Elilea is really pissing me off. It's a pity he can't be killed again :/

Been away :/

Sorry, my internet exploded during the middle of last week so I can only update sporadically.

Short version - Roxy was removed from the game because the not only accessed this blog but she was dumb enough to provide proof of it. Then she threatened the GM's that she would break the game if they punished her.

That is the reason I held off on posting TTR's mails; she can't do any damage if she doesn't have any information.

Rather ironically, if she hadn't autolynched me, there wouldn't be a deadblog, and she'd be alive now >.>

OK~

I'm sending an invite to BBC right now as well as the other dead players. I expect Argui may even know the third bodyguard.

BBC

well we finally have a dead detective. I sent him a few questions (who knew he was a detective, who did he rolecheck and when and did he run any vote checkes).

Sky I know we have to be careful about who to invite here but i'll vouch for BBC, He doesn't take part in the drama bullshit and won't cheat.

Rox was a sleeper

a check of the numbers after rox was removed from the game show the sleeper count as off by 1. I guess she really was a sleeper.

Mails from TTR

Hey there guys,
TheThirdRider sent me some useful e-mails. I'm going to share them with you now.

First e-mail:

"Only two people knew of my role, Rox and THG. Rox knew because I approached her with a deal to sell my services in exchange for favors. If she were mafia this would have been beneficial and I doubt she would have killed me. THG was proclaiming playing his cards close to his vest. He told me he was gossiper when I first introduced myself, I believe he has powers similar to that as he referenced my night actions and correctly said I was farmer john, or faithful john in the narrative. Close enough that I believe it was a slip swapping faithful and farmer.

Sagi approached me (citeing what we did last game) as being town and roled, he said he could demonstrate his power later to prove himself, but he told me no more than that.

Spiritclaw approached me (also the same as last game) saying he was town and that he had met a mafia player first in this manner but they had made a deal and so he couldn't share their name.

I covered harlock night one. I absorbed one hit but you can see that he still died, siblings I expect as no one but myself know of harlock being covered. Night two I introduced myself to THG and I was covering aarin but THG said he needed me to switch to thewinkel who was in danger and is supposed to be the other medic and covering aarin. I covered the winkel night 3 too. I was never informed of absorbing a hit after night one.

I don't want to screw THG over completely (there are a couple emails I could forward as yet) as I'm not convinced yet that he is mafia. I haven't read all the blog yet. Is it revenge that drives you or do you really believe his guilt?"

My response:

"Well here's the situation: some of the dead aren't bothering to play at the moment. In fact only myself, Kaiba, Harlock and you are even contributing information. Link, ChaoticAtomBomb and a few others are on the blog but they don't do anything.

We aren't sharing information with the mafia for obvious reasons. We also know that Elilea is dead talking and has received numerous warnings from the mods about it however he just doesn't seem to get it. Tell him nothing, except what you'd like to be shared with everyone :D

Aarin claims to be townie and just working with the mafia for now but the reality is that his win conditions work with either faction. If he makes any obvious pro-town move, the mafia will kill him. He will use any information he comes across and sell it to both sides to keep himself alive. He hasn't got any choice really. He has to make himself useful to everyone or they will kill him. So I'd recommend against giving information to Aarin. My original hope was that he would coordinate with the dead to help pass the information we had learned to the town, however he has not acted in good faith. We need to give him some good information – like some additional mafia player names – so that he will trust us.

Originally I wanted THG dead because he lied about me so I was sure he was mafia. But now I'm not 100% sure about THG. None of us are. In the first days thread I warned the town that THG had lied about me, as did Roxy. From this alone I was certain that he was mafia, and numerous other things popped up or happened (for example, Harlock predicted that they would sacrifice Vampirate ((even before the town knew he was mafia)) to make THG look like a good guy) continued to paint him in a dangerous light.

However this is the third mafia that the town has lynched. It's a very long stretch of imagination to think that THG is a mafia player at this point. However we're pretty sure he's not pro-town either, which Harlock suggested probably indicates he is one of the siblings or the Fairy Godmother. The truth is, we really don't know. However we do know that THG wanted me dead, he wanted the towny sleepers dead (he told this to DJROC. DJROC was a sleeper vigilante. The day after he told his role he got killed) and that somehow both Harlock and the paramedic protecting him – that were known to THG – are also dead. There are also numerous instances of him lying about his role (saying to one person he was a gossiper, saying to another person that he didn't know anything about the gossiper role) and lying to people

I think the most likely situation is that THG is actually a townie, but his network has a giant leak in it (however this does not explain why he is lying to so many people). The second most likely is that THG is actually mafia or a sibling/godmother.

By the way, we think SpiritClaw is either mafia or set up to be mafia by the mafia. It's explained on the blog, basically DJROC picked the pattern that mafia are using to place hits and SpiritClaw SHOULD have been hit but was not.

Basically, if you're interested, please share these e-mails you have, and any additional information, with myself, DJROC and Harlock. If it's ok, I'd like to put them (and this e-mail) up on the blog, however I figure since you sent this just to me I should keep it private for now.

I've been telling the mafia that I want THG dead for revenge to try and sound out how they felt about him. But if we get some good intel that says he is the real deal, then I won't be after his head. I want the town to win more than I want vengeance :D

Thanks for writing to me ^_^ I hope we can get a good result soon…"

His second e-mail
"Share as you see fit. I just didn't know who to CC.

Below is THG last email to me, and the one that contains the most useful information. This may help resolve some things:

I'll maintain that TheWinkel is a likely target for tonight, moreso now that I do not have my mafia-contact covering him. Otherwise, Aarin MUST survive at least until more of town dies, and TheWinkel is covering Aarin again, imo.

Thus, please cover TheWinkel. My 50-50 coin flips have a 100% rate because I'm basing the answer off of strange little threats and vague feelings. Elilea is not my medic because he is unproven, aggressive, and attempting to learn my bodyguards in order to "lynch" them.

This is the list of people that I trust absolutely: ChoaticAtomicBomb, barbara (both townies), Gasp! Its Jake (paranoid), and yourself. A frighteningly small list, but this list of people have been absolutely proven either by the lynching of mafia or some other form or role-check verification (none of which have been done by detectives, ironically).

Beyond this list, there are many players that I kinda sorta trust with some vague hints at information. They would be bscar (townie), uberlegen (townie), Sapphire (veteran), TheWinkel (medic), BBC (detective), Sagi (detective), DNA_Styx (sleeper), and Roxy (sleeper). Beyond Roxy, uberlegen, and TheWinkel, I am not communicating with any not-verifiable role in any real way until they are more certainly verified through my increasingly trusted detectives. Thus, I do not trust Sapphire, bscar, or DNA with hardly any information at all.

Be careful when talking with Zaxser, Elilea, and malice-sama. In fact, I would strongly suggset that you don't. They are my current list of suspect mafia, with Elilea coming in highest and malice-sama coming a bit more distantly in second--waiting on detective vote-checks~"

Removed Midnyt and Link

I've been informed by the GM that some information from this blog has fallen in to the hands of Roxy.

To prevent temptation of deadtalk information from continuing to fall into the wrong hands, I have removed the players who did not contribute.

Additionally, we are now 100% certain that Aarin is pro-mafia. Please consider extremely carefully what communications you have with him as they will likely be passed on to the wrong hands.

TheThirdRider

...has been added to this blog. He sent me an e-mail with some good news that I'd like to share but it was only a small portion of what he knew. I've asked him to share it in greater detail here when he has some time.

In light of this, I've put in my deadvote for THG.

Godmother?

Well, with the whole THG Rox controversy, I'd like to ask a question. Is it possible that they are the godmother/siblings?
The objective of the godmother is to simply spread death and destruction as they are the only ones who can survive. That is exactly what has been going on. If THG is actually mafia, then he is sacrificing too many of his members. If he is townie, then he has been too bloody still. The only role that would make sense is Godmother.
Moreover, this would mean that Rox is one of the siblings.
So, what are your thoughts?

Chat with DJROC

I asked if I could put this chat log up so that DJROC's thoughts don't get lost forever on the intarwebs:

Sky_Work> You were killed by Bluebeard.
DJROC> Yup.
Sky_Work> The story goes (in brief) that a girl is married to a cruel and terrible, but super rich...oh, you know.
DJROC> Yup.
DJROC> Did a whole play about it and everything.
Sky_Work> So she opens a room where all the dead wives are and she gets guttted. Ok.
Sky_Work> So rather ironic, then.
DJROC> In my blog post too.
Sky_Work> Oh!!
Sky_Work> I'll go read it now, thank you!
DJROC> Sure.
DJROC> You probably know most of it anyway, but, eh.
Sky_Work> To be honest we had only guessed bluebeard and the piper. We knew that there was a wolf type character but ...nobody actually thought little riding hood >.>;;
DJROC> Well, googling "Bzou" kinda gave that one away. Mafiacat obviously reads up on fairytales at wikipedia.
Sky_Work> ./me nods
Sky_Work> I googled it previously and the story came up
Sky_Work> It's the same one that BK talked about with the rope tied to the leg thing.
DJROC> ?
Sky_Work> Oh
Sky_Work> Ah....
Sky_Work> At one point she said in mirc that there was an original version of the little red riding hood where the wolf was a man, and the man sleeps with her.
Sky_Work> And then kills her >.>
Sky_Work> Bad ending~
Sky_Work> But over the years, the story has gradually changed.
DJROC> Ah. So supporting the werewolf thing.
Sky_Work> Yes.
Sky_Work> It does seem to be werewolf hints, not wolf hints.
Sky_Work> So I wonder if we have a LARPer in the forum.
DJROC> Why a LARPer?
Sky_Work> Because Live Action Role Playing communities include two specific groups - Masquerade (Vampires) and another group, werewolves.
Sky_Work> I'll trawl through the player accounts overnight~
Sky_Work> Bluebeard is also a pirate imo~
* DJROC chuckles.
Sky_Work> Oh, I just reread it - you were activated as a vigilante! Did you get to place any hits?
DJROC> Had no targets to go after.
DJROC> imo
DJROC> Huh... just noticed the pattern in mafia targets.
Sky_Work> Oh?
DJROC> LoL Patrol, CAB, TTR, and I all voted against Spada yesterday.
Sky_Work> I had 'people against rox' 'people who support rox' but didn't look closely today.
Sky_Work> OH
Sky_Work> Hrmm
DJROC> That's the bottom four, skipping SpiritClaw16
Sky_Work> That looks bad for SpiritClaw16.
DJROC> Either that, or an excellent frame by the mafia.
Sky_Work> Deliberate, perhasp?
Sky_Work> Given the mafia consists so far of Vampirate, Elilea (who is apparently an idiot) and...well I guess Spada is not an idiot...
Sky_Work> Still, worth mentioning. Maybe you want to PM Aarin about that?
DJROC> Sure, I can do that.
DJROC> What mafia died first? Vampirate?
Sky_Work> Ah.....yes. Vampirate, then Spada, then Elelia.
Sky_Work> I can never spell that guys name right. But I see where you're going with this.
Sky_Work> I wouldn't be surprised if they picked targets based on who voted for who in the election either.
DJROC> Odd... bscar and umhyuk voted for Spada and not Vampirate in the day 2 lynch vote.
Sky_Work> That IS odd (and I remember seeing it but we didn't have a detective to check them). However, in the previous game, we hit bscar for the same reason - he voted for Skulkraken along with major_pain, neo_nostalgia and one other person whom I forget.
Sky_Work> I'll add them to our suspicious cats list, along with SpiritClaw16~
DJROC> To have two Mafia being voted for on the same day, that just seems a bit weird.
Sky_Work> They might have been tipped off/told to vote Spada and then...huh. I wonder why they didn't get hit themselves?
DJROC> I suppose if they had died, that would have been incredibly obvious that Spada was a mafia.
DJROC> Otherwise why would his voters die, right?
Sky_Work> Yes. I guess so notsure
* Sky_Work is simple~
DJROC> I guess the questions would be "Were they tipped, and if so, who tipped them?"
Sky_Work> At this point I'd say THG has his fingers in all the pies, so it'd be his doing.
DJROC> Has a detective checked THG yet? (That you know of.)
Sky_Work> Not that I know of.
Sky_Work> However if he is mafia, he would definately be masqueraded, and if he is not, mafia would surely have masqueraded him to appear as mafia.
Sky_Work> Harlock said that THG claimed to be a Gossiper, like me.
Sky_Work> A gossiper gets one 100% accurate clue per night phase.
DJROC> That's very suspicious.
DJROC> As I recall talking about the gossiper with him last night, and him being rather "ignorant" about it, iirc.
Sky_Work> That IS very suspicious.
Sky_Work> Harlock said that THG told him he was a Gossiper prior to my death and reveal.
Sky_Work> So that would mean that THG really is a gossiper, or somebody else talked.
Sky_Work> However in either case, he should have known.
Sky_Work> No reason to lie to a townie - isn't that what he said in public? ^_~
DJROC> Suppose so.
* DJROC thinks he should start saving logs.
* Sky_Work thinks so too
Sky_Work> I don't know how to do it using mIRC, I have to manually copy paste everything.
Sky_Work> Do you mind if I put this conversation on the blog?
DJROC> Nah.
Sky_Work> THG is putting up more people for Jury Duty~
Sky_Work> Now Sapphire, CitizenX, Zero_Kanipan and 1337guard.
DJROC> Jury Duty confuzzles me.
DJROC> Is he trying to stir up voting power?
Sky_Work> I think he is trying to get people to vote so they can be detective checked with a 'how many Citizens voted for player x' check.
Sky_Work> What I would love to see is for them to get pissed off and vote for THG.
DJROC> Hmm. Interesting.
Sky_Work> It is a similar thing that I did as Lord Montague, however I was never so audacious as to suggest that I was the one doing the writing.
Sky_Work> Also, never in public. I wonder how effective it will be.
Sky_Work> A threat is no good if you can't back it up.
DJROC> Well, I've gotta start heading to bed. Talk to you later.

Suspicious-cats 2

DJROC has been analysing the votes and deaths and been a very clever cat. I'll let him explain his reasoning here so I don't steal his glory~

Current list of suspicious-cats:

TheHumbleGrasshopper
Rox
SpiritClaw16
Umhyuk
bscar
Zero_Kanipan
Gasp! Its Jake
Malice-Sama
Sapphire
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TheWinkel
Jun

Mad Hatter

Aarin told me that he thought Elilea was mafia, and he also claims to have a mad hatter under his control.

The banner for todays kills has a doll surrounded by bombs.

I wonder if there's something to Aarin's story...