[07:45] Sky_AFKwork Sky learned that a hopper cat has been a very naughty cat.
[07:45] TheGrasshopper And has already paid his punishment.
[07:45] TheGrasshopper For not reading closely.
[07:47] TheGrasshopper I messed up and took blame.
[07:47] TheGrasshopper But it won't happen again~~
[07:47] Sky_AFKwork Lying and cheating :/ A hopper cat is putting his hand right in the bees nest.
[07:47] TheGrasshopper How am I lying?
[07:48] TheGrasshopper I talked with the dead and admitted it.
[07:48] Sky_AFKwork You lied about me in the thread.
[07:48] TheGrasshopper Actually, I didn't.
[07:48] Sky_AFKwork I can't go into examples or I will be crossing the no dead talk line.
[07:48] TheGrasshopper Matter of perspective~
[07:48] Sky_AFKwork> So we will just have to leave it at that for now, and we can talk about it later.
[07:48] TheGrasshopper Yar
[07:49] TheGrasshopper When you become alive again, obviously.
[07:49] Sky_AFKwork> ...
[07:49] TheGrasshopper LIVE!
[07:49] Sky_AFKwork> :D
[07:49] TheGrasshopper LIVE, Sky, LIVE!
[07:49] Sky_AFKwork That would be nice ^_^
[07:49] TheGrasshopper And unexpected.
[07:50] TheGrasshopper Watch, that's what one of the sleepers does.
[07:50] Sky_AFKwork That would be awesome.
[07:50] Sky_AFKwork But for now I really do have to go >.>
[07:50] Sky_AFKwork See you around!
[07:51] TheGrasshopper> o/
Roxy and I also had a small incident. She seems to be under the mistaken impression I want her dead more than I want THG dead.
I usually spend most of my mircing time over on irc.blitzed.org; that is where my WoW guild is, so I made another chat room up in #playground and invited Harlock, Umino, Kaiba and Aarin over.
Unfortunately only Aarin has showed up but so far he doesn't actually say much.
Sky_Work> As should be completely obvious by now, Roxy and THG are mafia.
Sky_Work> The town can't lynch Roxy, THG will pardon her.
Sky_Work> So they need to lynch THG.
Sky_Work> If you hadn't been revealed, there was enough information left in my posts for anybody else (eg uberlegen) to quote it to get THG done.
Sky_Work> Should you die, I will be voting to kill Roxy.
Sky_Work> I am intending to corpsevote THG at this point.
Sky_Work> I have given your email.com account an invite to the www.baseunderacat.blogspot.com blog where you can see my reasoning and haet~
Sky_Work> So we need to work together to find out how you were hit.
Sky_Work> Did you tell your role to anybody (anybody!)?
silnet> I was hit at random imo. I told no one
Sky_Work> Hmmm.
Sky_Work> I mailed Kaiba, Umino, and Harlock to come here.
Sky_Work> Kaiba and Harlock won't come, they don't do irc or something. Umi should show up but it is like 5 am where he is now.
silnet> kk
Sky_Work> I want to know if they told anybody their roles, who their networks are.
Sky_Work> Same for yourself. I had talked to you, Umino, THG, Roxy and Black Kitty.
Sky_Work> Also Jun.
Sky_Work> Jun tried to guess my role. She said "You are the fairy godmother!"
Sky_Work> You must know that the mafia will try to kill you asap.
Sky_Work> Because the dead know each other and no reason to fear each other. Through the necromancer, they have a voice and it is an angry, mafia hating voice.
Sky_Work> So we need to get you medic protection and fast.
Sky_Work> For that we need to find the medics and approach them.
silnet> yeah, we'll see. I have more than one door still open. I was expecting to get hit day 3, then contact you chaps
Sky_Work> Do not doubt my intentions for killing mafia. I want revenge.
Sky_Work> I was told you were waiting for a certain game condition; I guessed it was you being revealed or enough corpses had dropped for a deadvote.
Sky_Work> afk brb - Iam at work >.>
silnet> yar. pretty much sooner than later, I just wanted to stay lowkey
Sky_Work> Ok.
Sky_Work> What are your plans at the moment?
Sky_Work> I would love for you to post something for me but I expect it will draw you a lot of hate and guaranteed death ~_^ But you may be dying tonight anyway, so...
Sky_Work> However you/the town will want to get the lynch vote rolling for THG before he starts it rolling for someone else.
Sky_Work> This is my role:
Sky_Work> "As the town gossiper, you hear it all! At the conclusion of a night cycle you will be given one clue regarding either a recent night action or a clue regarding narrative name. This clue is 100% free of red herrings."
Sky_Work> It is a town crier role but I only get one clue.
Sky_Work> This means you, as the only publically identified player, should be getting these clues given to you provided they think you are allied with the town.
Sky_Work> But if I was mafia I would be finishing you off tongiht. Just saying.
Sky_Work> So please tell me what you know, maybe we can work together.
Sky_Work> By the way, you ARE supposed to be able to access this forum through irc. It's irc.blitzed.org and #playground Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)
Sky_Work> I don't know why it wouldn't work.
Sky_Work> (It works for me)
Sky_Work> Here is an interesting chat I had with Roxy before she betrayed and killed me:
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:44] Did you not get my pms via mirc?
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:44] I'll be sending an identical message to THG - regardless of who wins, I am confident at least one of you is not mafia, so provided both of you are in agreeance about something, I will certainly work with you to the best of my ability.
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:44] However I think it's pretty obvious by now either you or THG will be the mayor and pardoner.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:44] Phew~
Sky_Work> Roxy[07:44] Yup!
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:44] Do you know why THG would lie about me in thread?
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:44] I am going to win anyway
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:44] I am glad to see that >.>
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:44] It doesn't matter~
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:45] I think it does matter.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:45] Why would he lie to kill somebody?
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:45] I have no idea D:
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:45] More importantly, why would he lie when he should have known he could be found out?
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:45] I'm pretty sure he is mafia.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:45] He could have just instalynched me quietly.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:46] But instead he tried to make a big drama about me being hostile and dangerous.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:46] He wants me to give him roles of players.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:47] Should I die, my alignment will be revealed. So please remember my words. I am a friendly town player.
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:47] Don't worry D:
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:47] There's no reason for him to want me dead except for fear of what I could do to the mafia.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:47] (which at the moment actually isn't much. People won't talk to me til after the vote is done)
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:47] Sounds like it
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:47] You probably don't need this warning but please be careful of him.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:48] (Also I would appreciate it if you make a comment in thread saying that you also got this message from me so I don't look like a liar myself >.>)
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:49] Everyone will know he is a liar
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:49] but okay
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:49] Thank you.
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:50] If you do this, you will have my loyalty.
Sky_Work> Roxy [07:50] Give me some time because I want his vote
Sky_Work> Sky_Sleep [07:50] * Sky_Sleep nods
Sky_Work> (end)
silnet> that's really weird
silnet> pointless lies by both of them
silnet> my current plans are shutting the hell up and waiting for day 3 ^.^
silnet> I planted seeds against the elected, but it's up to others to go public.
silnet> 'm pretty useless if I die in retribution
* Sky_Work nods
Sky_Work> Somebody has to start the ball rolling.
Sky_Work> I reckon Uber is the man to do it.
Sky_Work> But it needs to be against THG, and it has to be a solid reasoning.
silnet> I told him about it.
Sky_Work> Ok.
silnet> he's offline now
Sky_Work> >.>
Sky_Work> Of course.
Sky_Work> I saw THG in the forum, he didn't post yet, so. They're waiting to see what you will do.
Sky_Work> IMHO you will be killed tonight regardless of what you say or do today.
Sky_Work> Also - I don't actually believe you have a mad hatter up your sleeve Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)
silnet> No reason to put all the eggs in that basket though. I need to focus my efforts on the hatter
silnet> lol jynx
* Sky_Work shrugs
silnet> still compiling scenarios
Sky_Work> For the record, I have deadvoted for THG currently.
silnet> /o/
Sky_Work> Success~
Sky_Work> Man I'm so tired >.>
Sky_Work> Whoops, Hopper-cat posted. He's playing cautious for now.
Sky_Work> Hopper: "or your information, there is no reason for me to lie to anyone that I think is town, so I won't. " LOL LOL LOL LOL
Sky_Work> I hope you don;'t have to risk yourself here. Good luck.
silnet> thanks ^.^ and thanks for le sekret deadchan
* Sky_Work gives a thumbs up
Sky_Work> It's only good if we use it.
Sky_Work> I am writing up another haet filled post in my blog, I'll copy paste the less offensive parts when I am done.
silnet> heh, americanecro will be in bed soon, but I'm leaving le window open ^.^
Sky_Work> Ok bud~
Sky_Work> Basically, just read his post from the perspective of "This guy is mafia" and you'll see what's going on.
Sky_Work> He's had somebody masquerade him obviously.
Sky_Work> And now he is asking for people to network through him.
Sky_Work> It's suicide.
Sky_Work> The logical person to network through is YOU.
Sky_Work> Because you have been revealed.
Sky_Work> But he did not suggest that. No.
Sky_Work> He straight out said: As to the kills: The list strikes me very much as a "let's kill all of the well-known and good players" style list.
Sky_Work> Who was the very first person to die? Who were the people who wanted him dead?
* Sky_Work shakes his head
Sky_Work> God, I can't wait for him to die. I want him to read my blog ^_^
Sky_Work> Ah well~ I suppose it's too much to ask, but it's worth a shot - please post this. "A message from Sky_Paladin - Hi, I was telling the truth, THG and Roxy lied. Re-read the previous days thread. Please lynch THG, then Roxy. THG will pardon Roxy. Lots of <3's, Sky."
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The next day we had this 'conversation':
Sky_Work> Ok, so I have some messages from Harlock to share with Aarin, he didn't know this yet.
Sky_Work> So, Harlock says that he hit and killed Umino.
Sky_Work> I haven't heard back from Kaiba yet to learn if he took any night actions.
Sky_Work> However, Harlock recieved a message after he died from THG saying that there was a medic protecting him.
Sky_Work> I am told that this deadtalking has been dealt with, so let's not concern ourselves with that.
bringerofcats> yes
Sky_Work> However it means we can eliminate Umino's death from finding mafia.
Sky_Work> Harlock doesn't want Umino to know that he killed him. Harlock thinks that if Umino finds out, he'll throw a hissy fit.
Sky_Work> And not want to cooperate.
Sky_Work> I don't really think that will happen.
Sky_Work> Aarin, are people giving you messages for dead players? I know you're not passing info from the dead back to the living, just curious if it's going both ways.
Sky_Work> Because the town may be interested to know the role description of a gossiper, for example.
Sky_Work> Anyway - Harlock didn't answer me when I asked him if he revealed his role. However for THG to have a medic covering him:
Sky_Work> THG had to know Harlock was a veteran
Sky_Work> THG had to know a medic
Sky_Work> Or rather
Sky_Work> THG had to know 'a medic'
Sky_Work> If we assume THG is a townie, it means either he slipped Harlocks role to the wrong people (assuming he knew it) - see rule for mayor death #2, "Your network is breached."
Sky_Work> The 'wrong people' can also mean a mafia controlled medic ability, such as the priest - there was a Friar in the previous game who had a medic and town crier type ability.
Sky_Work> The other option for THG being a townie is that he really did have a medic on Harlock and Harlock was double hit.
Sky_Work> I don't believe he would be hit by the twins - they would be saving their double hit for somebody who is a threat to them. Harlock was only threatening to Roxy and Umino, and Roxy has bodyguards.
Sky_Work> If mafia are playing clever, they would be spreading their hits wide and thin. There was surprisingly only four deaths, and one of those was from a town hit. So mafia are maybe playing a quiet game again.
Sky_Work> It's possible Kaiba made a hit too, so Picture (Device Independent Bitmap)
Sky_Work> If THG is mafia, then harlock revealing his role to him is suicide.
Sky_Work> Knowing that Umino, the only person who did not oppose Rox who has died so far, was killed by the town is important.
Sky_Work> The town needs to know this so they don't solve clues that point to the wrong person.
Sky_Work> (Umino's clue is the Dr Jekyll, killed by the millstone)
Sky_Work> The mafia did not make this kill, they would be using this to link to other players.
Sky_Work> So you may wish to wait until late in the day phase to give players an opportunity to say 'zomg this clue points to xyz' and THEN reveal what you know.
Sky_Work> Harlock says that Umino told him that THG said that Rox is a sleeper, and that THG said he was a gossiper.
Sky_Work> Harlock says that this was revealed before my death so it is plausible that THG is actually a gossiper.
Sky_Work> I didn't tell anybody about my role, however.
Sky_Work> I do think it's possible THG is not mafia however he lied to me and about me so I don't put it past him to lie to others.
Sky_Work> It's really a hassle for me to have to pass on information like this. How hard is it to tell me things themselves? Sheesh.
Sky_Work> This was 90% of my head asplode from being Montague. Then I HAD to maintain secrecy. But Umino is dead! He doesn't have to talk through Harlock O_o
Sky_Work> OK Aarin - what are you going to do?
bringerofcats> sky talks a lot even to himself imo
* Sky_Work nods
Sky_Work> I r lonely T_T
Sky_Work> Aarin, THG is making clues point to Uberlegen.
Sky_Work> Uberlegen is the last person left who stood up against Rox.
Sky_Work> And not incidentally, THG.
Sky_Work> How much more do you need?
Sky_Work> Harlock tells me that Kaiba didn't hit anyone.
Sky_Work> I sure would love it if Kaiba would talk to me. Seeing as I asked him this myself. And his response was 'computer is a heap of shit wont be around'
Sky_Work> I told you THG would do this >.<
Sky_Work> AND he is using the millstone clue that was from Harlocks kill!
Sky_Work> eerr the bird and shoes, not millstone.
* Sky_Work sighs
At the moment, Aarin is either afk, actually dead, or doing his own thing. It's so frustrating.
Uber may be mafia, but the knife clue doesn't point to him. In the previous game BK made it clear she wouldn't use things like member numbers, avatars or signatures as clues. So this is either narrative text, a different kind of clue, or a red herring.
If I were Mafia, I would have masqueraded hopper cat to make him into mafia so that detective checks would come back as 'zomg wtf'.
Kaiba is confident that Hopper is a Gossiper, and maybe Roxy is a sleeper. THG gave Harlocks' identity away to an unknown source, and he exposed Vampirate and Uberlegen to get killed tonight. I expect many more town players to die to THG's hands before we finally get rid of him.
For fucks sake town. How can you be so stupid? Do none of you read the thread? I even got a mail from Madogu asking if he could join in my network with TheHumbleGrasshopper and TheThirdRider. He somehow missed that I was already dead O_o
Current predictions: Aarin still thinks he will survive tonight. So he won't do anything. The town will want to lynch Rox or Uberlegen. Aarin will die tonight (along with Uber if he isn't lynched). I want to corpsekill THG but I think most want to corpsekill Roxy. Roxy is going to get lynched today, tomorrow or some time soon, but the REAL threat to the town is THG and him being mafia/his network being infiltrated. Both Rox and THG have to go.
For some reason, the mods didn't post the vote tally. It's the first time that it wasn't posted so it was a big surprise for me. They gave the reason of 'only one person has voted' but imho who that person was should have been revealed.
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